Later on there were some exchanges between bersher,?darkseid, cr and others in which I thought that bersher was right to say we need to make ourselves less dependent on oil from the Middle East. I agree with david in rome and?darkseid who were right to say our intervention was legal, but I thought that the last word should go to hospitalier who simply asked whether it was a good idea or not.

Borrowers need a 5pc deposit and must take out a mortgage to cover the remaining 75pc of the cost of the property. After the five-year interest-free period ends, borrowers will be charged a fee of 1.75pc of the loans value. This fee will increase every year at 1pc above inflation. These fees only count toward the Government loan and come on top of the mortgage repayments. Borrowers must pay back the equity loan when they sell the home or at the end of the mortgage period - whichever comes first.

Does that sound to you like "no direct evidence" that wind farms "affect property prices"? Thought not.

"Tapi kenapa?Zairul de wat slh dgn Sara ke?"

"Either were really sick and twisted individuals who just love watching guys fight using martial arts, or they're missing something. Theres a bigger picture."